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I can´t imagine why the members of the government don´t give up.
It´s a matter of time until the demonstrators win. Even if they don´t the government wouldn´t have enough influence because the majority of the population is against them.

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Hello, I am a resident of Ukraine on this see the situation better than you on TV .
1. This is not a revolution , but an attempt to change the pro-Russian authorities on pro-Western . For ordinary citizens aboslyutno nothing will change.

Revolution - is a radical change in the system, not the replacement of one bourgeois others.

2 . Most of the people do not support unrest in the country, and even those who did not like the power go to rallies in support of the government !

3 . The main force of the "revolutionaries " - ultra neofashsty as "Svoboda ", " Right sector" and others.

4 . Appears not objectively media events , all of them under the rule of capital looking for the truth on the Internet on ordinary citizens !

Sorry for bad english

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user Malzar has written
Hello, I am a resident of Ukraine on this see the situation better than you on TV .
1. This is not a revolution , but an attempt to change the pro-Russian authorities on pro-Western . For ordinary citizens aboslyutno nothing will change.

Revolution - is a radical change in the system, not the replacement of one bourgeois others.

2 . Most of the people do not support unrest in the country, and even those who did not like the power go to rallies in support of the government !

3 . The main force of the "revolutionaries " - ultra neofashsty as "Svoboda ", " Right sector" and others.

4 . Appears not objectively media events , all of them under the rule of capital looking for the truth on the Internet on ordinary citizens !

Sorry for bad english

1. This is a revolution as it will change the corrupted pro-Russia government into a less corrupted pro-European government.
2. There are several maps on the internet detailing the situation in Ukraine. Most of the country seems to be either protesting or has already seized power.
3. Svoboda is a Ukrainian conservative/nationalist party. They kicked out all the neo-Nazis in the 2000's. Also, they are not the main force. The main force is UDAR and Fatherland. However thos that actually fight the police have a significant number of Svoboda members among them.
4. I take my information from independent and uncensored sites.

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1. Revolution - is a change of social and economic model of society , and not change one of the corrupt government to other corrupt government.
2 . Opposition we do not support Most of the population , you know we do not need your eu , we need social justice!
3 . Svoboda only parlament faction that did not vote for the law of the responsibilities for the justification of Nazi crimes , that says it all !
4 . To maintain the integrity of the picture look at the sources of the other parties to the conflict . On TV shows like "Berkut" bte demonstrators , but the fact that a second ago they were throwing Molotov cocktails at a no show.

The only sure way out of the situation suggested the Communist Party. This is referendum! But neither the ruling party nor the opposition did not support this idea, it is advantageous when all people's attention to the riots, and they meanwhile stolen state property.
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This riots is caused by a corruption if there is no corrupt goverment (Im going to kill my self.) but its not going to happen because people are greedy to become rich. We are lucky because our goverment is not monarchy we have the freedom to choose the right person, But we the people is fail because they are trying to sell their freedom by selling their votes. (Hope democracy is everywhere.)

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Ukraine's police is nice, they throw Protesters' molotovs back!


They should. If someone threw me a molotov to kill me, why should I just stand and watch?

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This is a very important political topic right now, we should keep it alive.

For those who are not aware what is really going on in Ukraine:
USA overthrew the Ukrainian government. Russia knows that they are not responsible for that and try to help the people, but Western media twists the truth.
ISIS in Iraq follows the same pattern.

The reason why USA is having so many wars at all is to keep the dollar stable. USA has a gigantic debt, and has to back it up with resources like gold and oil, to prevent the collapse of the dollar, and thus the USA.

They fear the anti-dollar alliance of Russia and China and several other countries (look up BRICS), which will put an end to US-Imperialism.

USA is the greatest threat to world peace. No doubt.
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He is right. Look at all the recent conflicts in the world, in a lot of cases USA has to do something with it.


How so? I know we have a big problem with getting up in other people's business but to say that the USA is the greatest threat to world peace especially when radical Islamic groups like ISIS exist is just absurd. There is no way any rational person can think that.

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ISIS, again, involves USA. No conflict goes without USA being involved.


ISIS involves USA yes, because if ISIS could they would blow up the whole US and kill everyone who wasn't Muslim. This in know way means the US is the biggest threat to global peace.

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Obama's crappy guy and so are Putin. Just Putin got more popluarity among his shoes-licking goverment pigs.

osamas crappy guy? what do you mean? and your grammar is not good... I really dont get what are you trying to say
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