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Off Topic Riots in Ukraine; revolutionand Russia did not send its troops to other countries "for the settlement of the democratic process" and allows people themselves to create the future of their country.
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§5.3 - No memes, ASCII art or comparable fun picturesPutin is one of the greatest modern presidents in my opinion. He contributed a lot to his country, while his western counterparts were involved in wars (including the proxy war in Ukraine) all the time.
And now they are trying to spread lies about Putin and Russia, because USA fears its downfall. And you fell for it.
Obama won the nobel peace prize for what? Bombing millions of innocent people?
Probably that is why US government is trying to start next war and wash its HUGE DEBT.
For example On February 1, 2015 according to Ministry of Finance of Russia amount of reserve fund was 5 864.90 billion. Rubles (~85,09 billion. dollars).
1 you hate other countries and peoples of cases committed in past and what can not be changed.
2 you form an opinion about characteristics unfamiliar to you people rumored, and not according to their deeds (I mean what he does for his people).
The modern world implies desire to think with your head and not listen to rumors.
Are you sure that it is necessary to quarrel and fight with your neighbors, provided that you have nowhere to move? (We all have only one planet...still)
I am Russian (you can hate me) and I'm not going to blame all Americans for fact that their government is trying to start another world war. And I quite adequately understand reasons for this ... and maybe if I were in their place that would also be one way of solving problem of debtor. But this solution is pathetic.
My people, or more precisely the nations that are part of it, according to story were attacked at different times and by different peoples (Russian experienced a lot of wars), but nevertheless I do not see any reason to keep this in mind - world is changing, perhaps soon erased all boundaries, will be a single language, and who then will need nonsense stories?
So in any case, at this moment to my mind Ukrainians should decide - they want to point fingers in their problems or want to solve their problems?
Pagyra has written
1 you hate other countries and peoples of cases committed in past and what can not be changed.
Don't want to get into this discussion as I'm more interested in other things but let me ask you this: if I stole your car yesterday and killed your wife, would you act friendly with me today just because it was yesterday? Doesn't make much sense, does it?
Hate is a bit too hard IMO. What I myself feel is 'negative outlook' just because I've learned what happened (and still see signs of what happened in everyday life) in the past. No way could I just plain act like it's 'all in the past'. I respect the choices Russia makes but I question whether they're really proper choices.
> Impying that whole Russia and all their people made all the same deeds at the same time.
Choices were made by different people in different times, that's what he meant. So your argument is invalid.
You did not understand what I meant.
If some father of some Russian guy punched you in the face, would you punch me? That's what I was implying.
Sorry if I worded it bad. >_>
Rainoth has written
if I stole your car yesterday and killed your wife, would you act friendly with me today just because it was yesterday?
No likely I'll kill you, or otherwise punish you according to law.
But I will treat kindly and act friendly to your son / daughter / relatives because they are not you.
However, you guys should calm down. Every country might have a more or less dark past, but we are talking about today.
After 1990, Russia was open for relations with western countries, but USA was not. Instead, they spent more and more money into military, messed up countless countries and took former Soviet-occupied countries into the EU/NATO. And people yet claim that Russia is the bad guy here? Where is the logic?
USA has hundreds of military bases around the world, but Russia has only 5-10 which are all justified and reasonable.
You keep on saying Obama is bad and never say why. What do you mean he doesn't do anything? How is he bad?
@ Corvallis5: He's too hesitant to do anything.
BountyHunter has written
@ Alpha Beta: Nice lies. Even my momma would believe it.
How old are you again?